From what I understand Tripod has been change to insightcinema.org? My point is they have all rights with OC films production and they didn't care about our comments on subtitles. Their excuse on subtitles' quality...
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Why are the words in white, sometimes they are so hard to read?
The process by which captions (or subtitles) are applied to a motion picture print is by use of a laser, which engraves the text onto each individual frame of the film, burning away the emulsion layer of the film, allowing white light from the projector to pass through the film and project white captions on the screen. Addition of a drop shadow or gray or black box surrounding the titles would require a very costly optical process.
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Oh, they feel it is expensive to use shadow, gray or black box surround the titles. They should give up and give the rights to another organizations who will listen to customers instead of save the cost on subtitles. Shame on them!
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Hi!
I am not sure monopoly is the right word, since there is nobody attempting to get in the game, except MoPix with Rear Window Captioning (RWC).
Insight actually seems to be hurting - companies aren't sending them movies. According to their listings, no one in my state does OC.
(our theatre does RWC)
The whole situation is changing with digital cinema. Projectors should have native ability built in. (There are software problems right now, at least with Christie)
MoPix is getting their getting Digital Cinema ready for RWC. Have not heard what will happen with OC, and getting any information on the state of either of these is difficult.
Hi ASLpride & all,
I run Deaf Access Films website. I volunteered at Tripod, years ago, before the captioning service became Insight Cinema.
Bill is correct, Insight does not have monopoly. They have been left out in front fighting for studios to make open caption films.
My take on situation is that Film Industry -
Distributors(the ones who contol ads and make deals with theaters and order prints/copies of films)
Theaters (pay distributors half, or more, of income from all tickets to distributors)
- needs both direct communication/feedback from Deaf film goers (ticket sales for captioned films) as well as other communication - letters, e-mails, phone calls, to studios, to theaters, to websites (Insight Cinema, Deaf Access Films, FOMDI, etc.)
We need to help communication between Deaf and Hollywood. Most people wait for others to establish these important services that rightfully are owed to Deaf. Help lead Hollywood into good service by telling them how to make good quality captions.
They are not too Deaf friendly now, because they have not rec'd letters, phone calls, e-mails to help them believe there are 30 million more tickets they could sell to every movie. They would LOVE to do that.
bill and greg: Ok, let me explain my story about this. You both claim that insight cinema isn't control all rights on OC films. As you see my vlog that I am not in favor of insight cinema's service. I did talk with some of my friends from CODIE. I did ask them to take the control in Riverside with OC films as they use subtitles with black background in past. They said that they couldn’t do it because insight cinema has all rights. Who's lying? Bottom line, insight cinema is trying to take control in USA, but it seem they are falling apart. They need to allow local take the charge and work on what they can. The past experience with CODIE provide OC films is priceless. With insight cinema, its joke.
I don't know who CODIE is, and I didn't get any relevant search results on the name.
If CODIE is another company that creates captions, they need to establish contacts with the movie studios and production companies, not the theaters. Most local theaters don't even book their own movies.
It's a complicated system.
CODIE is a deaf advocacy in Inland Empire. (codie.org, Center of Deafness-Inland Empire) It's not a complicated system; it’s all about money talk. You give a right price and it will work. CODIE did make it work, but insight cinema trying to do a business for all states. That's where they struggle. If they struggle, they need to allow local to take a responsible as CODIE did in past. It was successful business for CODIE as the tickets always being sold out in Riverside. Right now, not many deaf people from Inland Empire going there due to low quality subtitles. Insight cinema needs to listen the customers instead of focus on themselves. It comes from my experience.
ASLpride said,
"they need to allow local to take a responsible as CODIE did in past. It was successful business for CODIE as the tickets always being sold out in Riverside."
This is exactly the type of information that all people & businesses in the communication chain need to know about. Please forward this info to the e-mail contacts for the theater chains and studio people listed on InsightCinema sight and on MOPIX sight. It's fine that you don't like the format of captions, they need to know that too.
So far, Insight and every other Deaf advocacy group are all like David fighting Goliath. But Goliath would love to be Deaf's pal if they send him some measurable feedback.
You are right about the money speaking volumes to Hollywood. The regular, dull, boring relationship between Deaf and Hollywood just needs to get established. They will start adding a standard number of ads and captioned film prints to their regular budgets if the Deaf feedback keeps coming across their desk, their e-mail, their phone messages.
I've got no budget for ads and promotion for DeafaccessFilms right now. But I would try to ask all Deaf who attend *any* film to take photo of their face with the ticket stub (or something similar) and circulate copies of the image to our site, to Insight, their own Deaf blog, vlog, so groups of people with hard evidence like that, for every film, will have advertisers and the studios running to buy ads and donate to services and sell tickets to Deaf.
If you have any better, simpler ideas, I'd love to try them out. Maybe a public demand for open publishing of daily or weekly totals of tickets sold to captioned films (for each type - RWC, OC, subtitle). The regular info would serve as good communication feedback to Deaf community and those who want to build services for Deaf access (as if it isn't already the law).
I don't think there is need to get into "boardroom politics" but Insight has always had some Hollywood exec family members as directors on their board. They may try to bluff their way as "controlling" the OC rights, but they were simply among the earliest and most consistent group communicating directly with studios.
Remember, though, non-profits are all legally required to be open and have full disclosure of any such information. Most people just don't take the time or trouble to check it. (thank God for the web, it makes that kind of checking much easier now). Also, it is not illegal to "lie" for a business, unless they are making false claims, in writing or in public about what they make or do. The situation is different for non-profit corporations. They are expected by law to behave in a more ethical way and only make true, non-misleading statements. Some people can get "carried away."
greg: This vlog is reason for public aware about insight cinema. I did send them several emails and I have heard nothing from them. That's say something. Thank you for sharing your feedback. I appreciate it.
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