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- Aslpride
- Yucaipa, California, United States
- Support and use ASL! I am from deaf family and graduated at California School for the Deaf, Riverside in 1995. I have deaf parent, one deaf brother and several deaf uncles, aunts and cousins. I have a wonderful wife with three awesome kids. My first two kids are boys. They are tough, but compassion toward our daughter. Graduated with B.S. Degree in Information Systems Security. YLC Alumni '94
23 comments:
Sneaky little devils, eh? Well, just tell them to shove it and hope their computers crash.
Personally, I enjoy the ASL communication by service personnel. Because if they didn't do the job right, then I can yell at them. By the way, does anyone know of a painter or handyman with these requirements: must know ASL?
Darn right!
That's the problem! No supporting system ( no pun intended)! ;)
In fact, your vlog is INNOVATIVE and TRUE!
We must start telling the truths and it's time to wake them up! No more deaf Rip Van Winkles!
We must stop take each other for grant.
No need to further . . . (bang)!
*snicker* Painter or handyman? Sounds like characters from certain type of movies... Just kidding, of course.
Well, I never had this happen to me yet but I really hope that when I get ASL signing Deaf person do service, that their price will be worth their work! ;D
I hate to say this.. I do agree with what you said. One of my theories, it's the Deaf school's nature. Free, free Freebies - Students get free supplies, food, sport uniforms, bedsheets, blankets, and even Kotex & medicine.
I worked at 2 Deaf schools in East, and I brought my own kotex and asprins at all times. Then, I moved to Midwest and worked at the Deaf school - I was amazed to see FREE kotex in all ladies restrooms in every buildings, and even free asprins from infirmary. I couldn't understand why the paid staff get freebies while they could buy their own kotex and asprins themselves. I made this comment often to other staff and Adm.. they appeared to be surprised! Now, the free asprins is no longer available to staff due to state budget.
It's the "system" that we are discussing in the Deafread that influenced our worldviews..
Freebies - We need to let it go and face the reality of the world.
I agreed with KLM.
Can you fix my laptop? I'll be happy to pay you. Smile!
I didn't want a hearing person to fix my computer because I never learn what was wrong with my computer?
Great topic to bring up!....anyone reading this, read KLM's comment again.
I agree with you. I had two businesses before. First business - no deaf customers at all. Second business - I had best deaf customers from California Otherwise, deaf people tended to ask for the bottom prices or freebies. Come on. I know they buy them at stores. NO more marketing to deaf customers for me. I know one thing is they have bad habits to look for freebies.
YES!! I agree with you 100%. That s too bad :( I still prefer to pay the fee to deaf business than hearing. I still pay my deaf friend who owns landscaping and electric tech. I feel comfortbale with that because of better communicate and learn from them too. Better than nothing! I work for Lenscrafters for many years. Deaf customer often asked me for 50% off or discounts. I cant promise them. Depends on thier incomes. But mostly of them paid by thier triple AAA discount. But they were very happy with me for my service. They were all grin when they leaves with brand new eyeglasse.
CMS from Boston
Yes that is true!
If they don't like it, TOUGH! They must learn to respect Deaf businesses as well as hearing businesses. Yes it is crab theory disease. No question asked.
Schools need to teach Deaf students understand business world so that they can learn and respect.
Deafchip
My G-d, I am very sorry to say you ALL people (who answered in favor of the ASLPride's vlog) have an absolute stereotype of blaming DEAF looking for free!!
Why ?? Because I have seen the same thing in *HEARING* people looking for *FREEEEEEE* all the times! In my community I live in, they always ask me for free service! I said, "fee fee" they stopped asking me! Also, they usually go the places expecting their (same religion or culture) friends giving them some free or break.
Come on, stop slandering the Deaf! They were not trained to pay anything while they grew up in Deaf school.
I don't like this type of stereotype blaming on Deaf/deaf alone!
There are many other cultural type that does very similar to Deaf. For instance, chat in kitchen, grabbing a lot of food before giving others a chance to eat, etc etc. Same thing! It isn't only DEAF alone!
So next time, you have a question, please ask in general instead of fingerpointing deaf only!
Well, Judge, that was why I said I hope that price matches the quality of Deaf just as if it was a hearie doing the service. I have the same expectations.
Personally I do not like this country's economic model. I believe that for-profit businesses should stick with luxuries and government take over necessities goodies. There IS ABSOLUTELY NO reason why necessary things should be priced but unfortunately we live in the world where everything is priced.
Deaf perks.... many of us deaf got so many free services or things growing up. We have the habit wanting the free services. Im sorry about your experience. My mom always quote "the deaf perks" means.. we deaf people have the advantage than hearing by getting things free.
I think another possible cause is that so many hearing people who work with deaf youth, be they parents or professionals, tend to "do for" rather than "work with" deaf youth.
Deaf children who have been overprotected, overindulged (freebies), dismissed from certain chores because it is presumed that they are not able to perform those duties, etc. -- they grow up with a sense of entitlement. They are called "Cornicopia Kids." A Corniacopia is that horn shaped basket that sits on Thanksgiving tables full of harvets fruits and vegetables. It symbolizes the "overflowing gifts" of the earth.
Cornicopia kids are a common phenomenon in the deaf world (and, yes, in the hearing world too - only child syndrome sometimes shows this). They are a product of overindulgent parenting or deaf school provisions (freebies) that leads them to a sense of entitlement.
The thing is, there are other deaf people who say, no way! You pay like I pay! Equality all the way!
You make a good point.
~ LaRonda
Judge, Think about the ratio between hearing and Deaf.
It still needs to be educated at residental schools and inside families especially doh.
My respond
When I said "worth the price" I did not have an example yet but now I do! I remember I wanted John Egbert's book Mindfield. It costed me over 20 dollars. Guess what? IT WAS WORTH EVERY CENT AND MAYBE MORE! I just wish his book is a bestseller!
I have seen this happen over and over again! We have a very talented *deaf contractor* here in the Pacific Northwest, and other deafies hire him to do numerous carpentry jobs, including building a cpmplete residence. But often this poor guy's clients wind up suing him. 'Just because they are looking or a freebie or a cheapie. I don't know how this poor fellow survives all of this controversy. He is truly talented!
I would like to advise all people who hire the deaf that there are State Laws. State Construction Laws. If you are not happy with the work, then report it to the PROPER authorities.
If a deaf business has the proper licenses, permits, etc. then by all means pay him whatever he AGREES TO CHARGE in advance. Make sure there is a CONTRACT.
If the deaf "contractor" has no license, is doing work for you "off the cuff", then you have no one to blame except yourself if this person does a poor job.
YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED just because you are deaf.
Lantana
I agree with Judge, it's the same thing with hearings.
Most of the time its like, "I know so and so owns this business, he's my friend, he will sell to me with no profit to him." I see my hearing sons and his friends do that all the time. Or so and so will fix something for free, just because he's their friend. Of course, sometimes, they trade off or offer beer. When I get "free" services such as car repair from one of my son's friends, usually I end up paying them some labor out of guilt trip. There are some things that are given for FREE just because they are friends.
SO..Judge is right. We have to remember one thing, if you have no idea what really goes on in the real world, what makes you think it only happens in the deaf world?
AslPride-
Very interesting question you asked! :-)
Yes, most of deaf people (Not all of deaf people) does expects free services from other people if they are deaf. I have experienced and continue to experience that firsthand in my work.
But that's funny because I am on salary so I don't make a profit off those deaf patients. Because their insurance companies are being billed for the services that I provides in the name of the medical company that I represent for. I can't tell you how many times the patients would argue with me or the secretary about the co-pay cost which range from $ 3 to $ 25 depending on who their insurance company is. We have no control over the co-pay cost.
Only if those deaf people take a minute to think and realize how lucky they have that there are other deaf people who can provide various services using sign language. The one should appreciate that!
Geesh!
My Response
Judge, you said it so eloquently!
Exactly. There really isn't much difference.
Bottom line is, any Deaf business owner/contractor needs to market to the mainstream market, not just the Deaf market. This way, he/she can at least provide goods/services and have realistic expectations of being paid.
I do understand that while starting out a business or marketing your skills, these Deafies tend to gravitate towards other Deaf people in generating business. That's fine in the short term, but if one wants to make a living, the mainstream market is the way to go.
Well, I'm a CODA (Child of Deaf Adults). In both worlds, there is a portion of these "freebie/cheapy" people. I am also married to a very talented carpenter, whom is Deaf. Currently, I live in a small town where there are less than 20 Deaf people. The town is really cheap. They don't have nice restaurants here because no one will support them. They are constantly looking for free or cheap services. So it's really not so much the hearing or Deaf market, but it is more of the target within these communities. When you have a target market, then you can zero in on the people that will need your services and appreciate your rate/fee. Demographics is really what the bottom line is, regardless of hearing or deaf. It's also about priorities. These same people that won't pay for computer repair, take vacations or spend their money else where. Great question, looking to see more from you.
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