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- Aslpride
- Yucaipa, California, United States
- Support and use ASL! I am from deaf family and graduated at California School for the Deaf, Riverside in 1995. I have deaf parent, one deaf brother and several deaf uncles, aunts and cousins. I have a wonderful wife with three awesome kids. My first two kids are boys. They are tough, but compassion toward our daughter. Graduated with B.S. Degree in Information Systems Security. YLC Alumni '94
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wow anyone not have idea to help solve problem. but i did watched ur videoclip about "DEAF" fight over about fund money.... hmmmm.... it's VERY INTERESTING HOT TOP OF ISSUES SERIOUS ABOUT IT..... u are right "DEAF" is plenty of meaning as Oralism, ASL, SEE, SPEECH CUED, MANY NAME. yes i know it's hard ONE WORD FOR EACH. really DEAF make sense if open as sports, contest, stuff like that as welcome any kind of deaf no matter what as we are DEAF FAMILIES! but FUND MONEY that's so WORSE BIGGEST PROBLEM. i know what u talk about. whoa! i have been thinking about it since hour try to figure it out how make it work out! gosh it's so diffcult. but MY OPINION i am not try decide help i just my GUESS might good idea to solve problem. maybe who Company or whoever give Fund money for DEAF. i think we should suggest them pick which one they suppose as for ASL as only use signing language Edcaute, if they rather give fund school which have oral as speech then ORALISM or rather give Speech Cued as different kind of sign language with speech so called it Speech Cued. as they pick what EXACTLY THEY WANT GIVE WHAT THEY SUPPORT WITH THEIR EDCUATE FOR BEST! if ASL then go for it or whatever they want gave to whoever they support of group edcuated. it's might be solve with ur question issues? i don't know if it's good idea or not. depend on people's feel if it's right thing. so they don't have to FIGHTING AND WAR EACH OTHER OVER "DEAF"! just tell them give name exactly what they want support for fund money to WHICH PART OF DEAF EDCUATE as "ASL," "Oralism,"... etc.... so that's so simple if they give exactly kind of edcuated then it's won't be fight or war each other cuz it's name of GROUP THAT'S IT! i think that's so simple. that's my opinion HOPE it's go better work out anything instead make people LOOK AT US DEAF CRAZIES for fighting over "DEAF"! gosh! I GLAD U BRING IT UP it's very serious issues about fund money problem. it's REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS! that's all my best help with my opinion.
keep up with ur discuss diffcult issues about serious stuff. so it's save OUR NECK instead fight each other over DEAF! =-\.......
keep up with ur videoclips!
Joshua "Vampbat" Womick
To me there are only two labels and under those two labels are several sub-labels. You see, Deaf is for those who are profoundly deaf to a degree where a hearing aid will NOT help them at all. Then there is a second label called Hard of Hearing, those are who has hearing loss of 60 db to a degree where hearing aids will help them. Under those two labels are wherever they fit according to DB. The sub labels are oralist, late deafened, etc Some oralist are profoundly deaf and others are HOH, same with other sub label groups.
so my perpective is there are only two main labels with a variety of sub labels under the two main.
How true!
That is one big problem among us that could threw them away who are ready to give us some funding we need.
I can't think of a solution. I am sure we have some scholars out there are now reseaching for a solution. It won't be an easy answer.
Not only us, the blind people are fighting the Blind Identity, too. Don't you know? It is like us, the manualist vs oralist. They are split by two different methods of braille.
It is centuries old problem.
I went to the city in the middle of Russia's Sibera, Omck, for the theatre engagement. We had the opportunity in our free time visiting the deaf residental school that taught manually. There was a seperate school for oralist but we didn't visit there. I met deaf signing people on the street and we had hours of chat, exhanging our Deaf history.
They informed us their early history of deaf education. I found it like ours in America, brought a teacher from French to establish school there like did Gallaudet and Clerc here. They did have the golden years like ours until the oralism appeared. They formed the organization like our NAD for the same purpose, protecting our sign language. That was before the Russia Revolution that led to the commusism.
Before the revolution, there were two seperate schools, one is manual and the other is for oraslist like ours in New England, American and Clarke. After the revolution, the Soviet's Central Committee (CCCP) tried to put all deaf and hard of hearing students together in the same school. There were riots among the kids, calling each other bad names. They were so stubborn, refusing to dissolve their wall. The goverment yeilded and separted the them again ever since.
That time when we were there in 1994, just after the fall of the Communism, the manual schools taught only up to eighth grades while the oral schools had the equivalence of high school with hope of a few would go to go an university. The kids from the manual schools went straight to the factories.
So the two groups or three if you include the Cued Speech, won't mix for the the same identity like you can't mix oil and water, I am sorry to say unless there is a miracle or someone a genius with a solution. I am a merely artist.
Chuck Baird
I really like jwomick's idea where we let people who provide funds decide for themselves what they want to support. The problem is that most companies want to be "politiaclly correct" and inclusive to all D/deaf people and not limit their supporters to only ONE sub-community (ASL, cued speech and so on). These sub communities are small compared to the ENTIRE D/deaf community, so they have to promote an inclusive deaf community, or at pick the one that will give them the most support. Therefore when AGB (related to aslpride's next vlog) steps up and says "hey, we've got the most support since most deaf kids are mainstreamed today, and 95% of deaf kids are born to hearing parents" it makes AGB seem like the best move for organizations to support them. Think about it from a typical hearing persons perspective: making a deaf person hear is considered a miracle. AGB is promoting that they can make this miracle a reality by showing off their star students who happen to be extremely adept at speaking and lip reading, and have good auditory receptive skills. This suggests that all their students are like this and thus they get tons of support, and loads of funds.
I like how there's already divisive comments in here. I have never seen "profoundly deaf" reserved for those who can not use hearing aids. Come on, I'm down by 90db, you're not going to tell me I'm not profoundly deaf (or not deaf!) just because I can use HA. I also know of people with relatively "minor" loss but who can't use HA because it doesn't amplify anything useful. These divisions by db are just pandering to the same hearing-oriented view that wants to measure, cut, and analyze according to their measures of normal. I have never in my life considered myself "HOH" and I'm hardly going to start now.
Secondly, the notion that "oralists" will never "accept" "manualists" or vice versa is just completely absurd. I was orally educated and grew up as such, and until a few months ago, didn't know any sign or anything about Deaf culture. But here I am, learning and absorbing everything I can.
I don't know what the solution is about how to go about funding money to which groups and such. The problem is that if these funding agencies are dominated by hearing people, they will be naturally biased toward groups like AGB and such, because the oralism approach to them is natural.
On the other hand it turns into big nasty internal fights and so on over which deaf is "deaf" and so on.
Longest run, we need to get all deaf people together with outreach and so on. If I can "cross over" at the age of 40, then I'd say it would be well worth to work on ways in which we can all unite. After all there's so vanishingly few of us that splitting ourselves up even further is absolutely tragic.
Remember, "united we stand, and divided we fall..."
America is a melting pot. We are made up of many different races and faces; Many bi-lingual and multi-lingual people; A nation of colorful identities.
Deaf people are the same way. Our uniqueness and differences are as countless as the stars.
Yet we are all made of the same stuff. Our commonality lies in that we are all "deaf." The differences are in how we were brought up, what kind of education we received, whether we sign or use assistive listening devices, etc., etc. But we are all "deaf."
Just as those who live in America are all American. We have Chicano-Americans, Chinese-Americans, African-Americans, Irish-Americans, etc., etc.
We are a melting pot. We are all human. We are all made from the same life-force. Yet, to give up our unique and multiple identities is asking people to surrender how they define themselves. I don't know if this is possible. I think we simply look to find the common ground. We are Americans. We are deaf. Or, we are a global deaf community made up of different threads that make a beautiful tapestry.
~ LaRonda
I want to thank you all for giving me some feedback on this issue. I know you will notice that I am still bring some hard issues on my vlog. I have my reason for it and I hope to make the conclusion within few weeks. I want you to know that your feedback are very valuable to me and it is worth to think about.
Thank you again,
Aslpride
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